HINESBURG PLANNING COMMISSION

                                                           Minutes of June 14, 2000

 APPROVED August 16, 2000

 

Present:            Ted Bloomhardt, Roger Kohn, Carrie Fenn, John Mace, George Bedard, Missy Ross and Fred Haulenbeek.  Also Faith Ingulsrud, Town Planner                                

 

Members Absent:         Jean Isham                  

 

Members of the Audience:        Eileen Carpenter, Tom Sopchak, Andrea Morgante, Ethan Lacey

 

1.  Eileen Carpenter, Hinesburg Healing Arts Sign Review.  Ms. Carpenter described the proposed sign and showed a color version of the drawing that the Planning Commission members had received with tonight’s meeting agenda.  The sign’s lighting would be similar to Lantman’s IGA and the law offices of Kohn and Rath.  Each halogen light would be 100 watts.  The times that the sign may be illuminated were discussed.  It was assumed that the sign would be lit during the Hinesburg Healing Arts business hours.  Ms. Carpenter expressed a desire to have the sign lit for a time after hours as well.  She suggested using a timer to turn the lighting off at 9:00 p.m.

 

The sign location meeting the 33 foot setback from the Route 116 centerline was also discussed.

 

With no further questions or concerns, Ted Bloomhardt made the following motion:

 

The Hinesburg Planning Commission hereby grants sign approval to Eileen Carpenter for a 25" X 30" free standing, lighted sign in front of the Hinesburg Healing Arts building at the corner of Route 116 and Kelley’s Field Road.  The sign design and location shall be as proposed by the applicant except as set forth herein.  This approval is subject to the following conditions:

 

1.              The applicant shall obtain a Zoning Permit from the Zoning Administrator prior to installing the sign.

2.              Any additional signs shall require further approval from the Planning Commission unless the zoning bylaw states that the category of signs is exempt from Planning Commission review.

3.              The sign may be illuminated as proposed until 9:00 p.m. or later if the business is open later.  The lighting shall be aimed such that no glare is visible from the road.

 

John Mace seconded, and it was unanimously approved by all those present.

 

 

2.  Tom Sopchak, Storage Solutions Sign Review.  Mr. Sopchak explained that his proposed free standing sign would be similar to the Lantman’s IGA sign.  The drawing presented by Mr. Sopchak showed a half moon decorative shape resting above the main body of the sign, and he indicated that this might be modified sign the company making the sign does not like it.  Mr. Sopchak showed a color photo of sign that would have similar coloring.  He is proposing red posts; cream lettering; and a dark green background.  John Mace asked for confirmation that the 16 square foot size limitation applies to just the sign.  It was explained that the posts and borders don’t apply, but there is also a height limit.

 


Mr. Sopchak felt that a free standing sign would be more attractive than a wall mounted sign.  He explained that a lot of landscaping has been planted to make the front of the business look good, and that a wall mounted sign would be harder to see through the landscaping than a free standing sign.

 

Ted Bloomhardt then made the following motion:

 

The Hinesburg Planning Commission hereby grants sign approval to Tom Sopchak for a 3' X 5' free standing sign in front of the Storage Solutions building on Commerce Street.  The sign design and location shall be as proposed by the applicant except as set forth herein.  This approval is subject to the following conditions:

1.              The applicant shall obtain a Zoning Permit from the Zoning Administrator prior to installing the sign.

2.              Any additional signs shall require further approval from the Planning Commission unless the zoning bylaw states that the category of signs is exempt from Planning Commission review.

3.              No sign lighting is proposed at this time and none is allowed without further Planning Commission approval.

4.              Lettering and trim colors may be changed from that proposed to match and coordinate with the buildings.

 

George Bedard seconded the motion.  There was a question about the colors of the sign, and Ted amended the motion by adding item #4.  John Mace then re-seconded the amended motion and it was unanimously approved by all those present, except for Roger Kohn who joined the meeting in the middle of the discussions.

 

3.  Andrea Morgante - Lewis Creek Mapping Project.  Andrea Morgante and Ethan Lacey met with the Planning Commission to show examples of the grant project they are working on and to get the Planning Commission to think about what’s useful for them in regards to this project.   Ms. Morgante explained that there are implications on natural resources when writing the new Town Plan.  There have been many natural disasters/flooding in the past few years that have resulted in loss of gravel and culverts.  FEMA does not cover road repair if culverts weren’t properly sized to begin with.  Incremental damage occurs with each new road cut.  When people build, they like to clear more land and flatten lawns which increases storm water runoff and adds sediments to town roads and ditches.

 

Ms. Morgante showed several NRCS maps.  One showed flood plains mapped according to soils types.  George was not impressed by the maps and saw many errors.  He felt the main value of the project was to let people know they have a long way to go to have accurate mapping.  Another set of maps illustrated the historic build out of land in Monkton since 1869.   A color coded map of Starksboro’s wildlife habitat land cover illustrated how development can fragment “”core forest” areas.

 


Fred Haulenbeek asked why it was so difficult to correct the maps.  Faith explained that FEMA has a ton of maps that need updating.  They haven’t been properly funded on the national level.   The only areas getting attention are those that are grossly erroneous and where bad flooding has occurred repeatedly.  Faith also explained that new local subdivisions are providing site-specific information such as for wetlands mapping and this information should get incorporated into the GIS mapping system.   The best mapping information is information that is refined at the site level.

 

There was discussion about coordination of information with other local town planning commissions.  There is no communication among the towns.  Roger said there needs to be model zoning ordinances so towns don’t have to re-invent the wheel all the time.

 

4.  Planning Commission Bylaws Amendment.  A revision based on the recent Supreme Court decision that abstentions cannot be counted in a Planning Commission vote, was made to paragraph #6 of the Planning Commission Bylaws.  Roger wondered about the wording concerning who can warn special meetings.  It was decided that paragraph #11 addressed that issue in a satisfactory manner.  It was also noted that in paragraph #12 the bylaws may be amended or changed only be a vote of all Planning Commission members.  Faith with change the bylaws so that #12 says: “These bylaws may be amended or changed at any time by a vote of a majority of all the members of the Planning Commission.

 

5.  Minutes.  In other business, Carrie Fenn moved that the minutes of May 17 be approved, as amended.  George seconded and it was unanimously approved by all those present.  Ted moved to accept the minutes of June 7 as amended.  Missy Ross seconded, and it was unanimously approved by all those present.

 

6.  Miscellaneous Issues and Questions.  Faith gave a history of the Colton subdivision located across from Cedar Knoll Golf Club.  A five lot subdivision was approved in 1993, but according to her research, it expired three years later because substantial construction did not occur.  Among other issues, the Planning Commission was not notified that reclamation had been completed as required before any lots could be sold.  A revised plan was approved in 1995 but the plat was never filed in the Town Records so that plat expired 90 days after approval.   The new owner of the land is operating under the assumption that the 1993 subdivision approval is still valid.  The Planning Commission agreed with Faith that substantial construction did not occur and therefore, the new owner needs to renew the subdivision approval.

 

Boundary line adjustments for lots that were approved subdivisions were discussed at length.  Faith said the Subdivision Regulations have a clearly defined, simplified process for boundary adjustments for pre-existing lots, but it is not clear if this can be applied to lots that were approved subdivisions.   George gave an example of a boundary line problem he is currently working to correct.  Roger said that if a boundary adjustment is needed for approved lots, people should come back to the Planning Commission, even if the change is is minor.  It will then be determined what the correct procedure is at that time.  It will either be a Subdivision Revision per Section 8.7 of the Subdivision Regulations, requiring just Planning Commission approval of the change, versus Re-subdivision, requiring a warned public hearing.

 

Faith asked if when preliminary and final plat review are combined in one meeting, if the applicant needs to pay both fees.  There were differing opinions, but it was ultimately decided that when review steps are combined that the both fees need be charged.  Roger argued that both fees should be applied so the Planning Commission will not be making a financial decision affecting the applicant when it chooses to shorten. 

 


Carrie Fenn asked about the status of the Firehouse Plaza landscaping.  Faith said she is working with the owner to reach compliance with the Planning Commission requirements.  She described the issues involved with finding room for a sidewalk between the parking lot and Route 116.  It was agreed that the Planning Commission still needs an accurate engineered plan for Firehouse Plaza.

 

Members suggested that the Rural Zoning issue be addressed as the first item on a meeting agenda, rather than towards the end of the evening so it doesn’t get put off all the time.  The Planning Commission decided to schedule a work session for Wednesday, July 26th.  A meeting for applicants is scheduled for Tuesday, July 11th.  Faith will not be able to attend the July 11th meeting, but will have everything prepared in advance. 

 

The meeting adjourned at 10:30.

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

 

Sally Kimball, Recording Secretary