HINESBURG
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD
MINUTES
OF JUNE 4, 2002
Approved
6/18/02
Present: Tom McGlenn, Greg Waples, Ted
Bloomhardt, Carrie Fenn, and Clint Emmons.
Also Peter Erb, Zoning
Administrator.
Members Absent:
Peter Ross and Wayne Burgess.
Members of the Audience: George & Karla
Munson, Larry Munson, Mike Pelletier, Larry Winters, Wilma Smith, Nicandra
& Jeffry Gallper, Nancy & Greg LeRoy, Carla & Ryan Wuthrich, Kristy
McLeod, Scott Johnansen, Sally & Chuck Reiss, and John Ferrara.
1. MINUTES Greg Waples made the motion to accept the minutes of May 21,
2002 with corrections. This motion was
seconded by Clint Emmons and passed.
2. EVANSON/GOODRICH Sam Evanson and Rocky Martin (Hinesburg’s
Public Works Director) were present to request that condition #13 of the
Evanson/Goodrich sketch plan approval be revised. This condition stated that “The town shall hire a licensed
independent engineer which will be paid by the developer to submit a report to
the Board on whether increased traffic will affect the safety of ‘lower Buck
Hill West’ relative to other hill roads in Hinesburg.”
On April 16, 2002 Rocky sent a letter to the Development Review Board
outlining that process and his involvement.
That letter was accepted as part of the record at the 4/16/02 meeting of
the DRB accepting these recommendations and including that there will be
“consideration to winter conditions” and the developer “shall be included in
the cost of negotiations.”
On May 8th, Rocky wrote a second letter to the Board
requesting that this road study not include comparisons to other hill roads in
Hinesburg. With this letter, he
included a letter from Jeff Kershner from Hamlin Consulting Engineers listing
the scope of work that they would perform to fulfill this condition #13.
Rocky explained that he had also talked to Dave Roberts who is with the
MPO and they felt it would be difficult to do a analysis of the Town hill roads
and this road. Jeff Kershner felt that
it would be good to have data on the number of accidents on the road. Rocky had checked with Chris Morrell,
Hinesburg’s Police Chief, and their reports are not separated as to type
of incident and would have to be manually checked to pull out accident
reports.
Rocky then said that the MPO has already put out traffic and speed
counters on Buck Hill Road West and had sent him a detailed report. Sam Evanson had that report and said that
although this road is not officially posted for speed he had read that the
speed limit should be 25 - 30 miles an hour.
This report showed that 7.9% of the traffic went between 40 & 45
miles an hour, 3% had gone between 45 & 50 and that 4% had gone between 51
& 55. Sam’s stated he feels that if
speed limits were posted and enforced on this dirt road, safety would no longer
be a factor. He also felt that
improving it significantly would tend to allow drivers to go faster. He further suggested that it would help to
have more stop signs at the intersection of the Buck Hill
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and Lavigne Hill
Roads. Sam felt that if these
changes were made, condition #13 of his sketch plan approval could be
eliminated.
There was then a discussion period with the following issues brought up
by the members of the Board and audience:
– The neighbors could supply incidents of accidents that have occurred
if this is not available from the police.
– It was explained that this study will consider winter conditions
also.
– There is a (hole) deep spot in the ditch beside the road and ruts that make this road
dangerous.
– People have slid into the ditches in the winter but the number is not
available.
– There are delivery trucks and other people that use this road and are
not aware of how dangerous it is.
– Scott Johansen does not use the road with his horse trailers for his
riding stable in the winter.
– Rocky will set up the committee to work on the upper section of the
Buck Hill Road West as required by condition #1, when Sam’s engineer’s
preliminary plans are complete.
It was emphasized that it is important that this committee cooperate
with each other to try to work out a solution.
Ted Bloomhardt made the motion to modify condition #13 of the
Evanson/Goodrich sketch plan approval to remove the requirement that the Buck
Hill Road West be compared to other hill roads in Hinesburg. The engineering study will include
consideration of year-round road conditions and any objective accident data
submitted by the neighbors. This motion
was seconded by Clint Emmons and passed.
3. O’NEILL - SKETCH PLAN Jim and Charlene O’Neill were present for
sketch plan review of their property on the south side of the upper portion of
Buck Hill Road West. They are proposing
to create one 5-acre lot and have their existing house on a 3-acre lot. This proposal was submitted by George
Bedard, who then explained the following aspects of this subdivision:
– The existing house has an inground septic system that received State
approval in the 1975. The new lot will
have the new septic system with a replacement area and also the replacement
area for the existing house.
– The house site would be in the clearing on the south portion of the
new lot and there is screening from the Reiss house.
– There are some wetlands on this property and Cathy O’Brien will
address this issue.
– The right-of-way to the Reiss property has been incorrectly shown on
the Town tax maps and this could will be corrected on the survey. If it is on the O’Neill property it would
affect the size of the lots.
– Utilities to this new lot will be underground.
– There will be a drilled well on this new lot. Jim stated that they had filled swimming
pools and made hockey rinks for their house and their well has never gone dry.
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– George mentioned that this road may not have been properly maintained
by the Town causing ruts, etc.
Charlene then explained that she was sorry that their property has
become involved with the many issues and neighbors’ concerns about Buck
Hill. They have lived here for over 20
years and have seen and not interfered with the large number of new houses that
have been built
in this area. She felt that they only want to subdivide
their property for one house and they should have the right to do that.
There was then a discussion of the potential for future development in
this area and how much more traffic Buck Hill Road West could handle. Tom explained that this type of data
collecting and policy making would be done by the Planning Commission and/or
Select Board.
There was a
discussion of whether future developers would have to share in the upgrades Sam
might do and pay for in connection with this road. There was also discussion of whether the O’Neills should share in
his cost proportionately for their one new lot.
Tom McGlenn then made the following motion: The Hinesburg Development Review Board hereby grants sketch plan
approval to Jim O’Neill for a 2 lot single family residential subdivision Tax
Map #9-1-44, on Buck Hill West. Lot # 1 is to be a minimum of 3 acres with the
existing house on it, and Lot # 2 is to be approximately 5 acres. The subdivision shall be as proposed by the
applicant and the final subdivision plat application shall address the
following issues:
1. Wet areas are visible in
this subdivision and evidence shall be presented that classify and map these
wetlands.
2. Wastewater treatment plans
shall be submitted with the application by a State certified site technician or
engineer that meet all state standards for this subdivision. A preliminary site
visit indicated high ground water and the soil test logs shall be included with
the plans. If curtain drains are required to lower the water table as part of
the septic design, evidence of their success shall be included with the final
plat application. The DRB reserves the option to have the wastewater plans
reviewed by a qualified representative of the town for compliance as well as
review of the existing system and design of a replacement area.
3. All exterior lighting shall
be installed or shielded in such a manner as to conceal light sources and
reflector/refractor areas from view from points beyond the lot.
4. Any principal structure and
garage shall be located in the building envelope to be shown on the plat.
Distance and other information necessary to locate the envelope shall be
included on the plat and the envelope shall be staked out so that the envelope
can be located by the building contractor. The wetlands, if any, along with any
necessary buffer zones, shall be included in the final plat, and any
restrictions on them shall be included in the deed.
5. Driveway construction plans
shall be included that indicate how all water will be directed away from Buck
Hill Rd. and if in mapped wetlands, be redirected back to its original course.
All stumps shall be removed rather than buried. The driveway shall be constructed, maintained and plowed at least
12 feet in width with at least 12" of gravel.
6. Before obtaining a
Certificate of Occupancy for the new dwelling, the owner of the land shall
require that the contractor constructing the road or driveway submit a letter
to the
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Zoning Administrator
stating that the road has been built in accordance with this approval and all
the standards specified in this condition.
7. The applicant is reminded of
the necessity of obtaining a driveway permit from the Town of Hinesburg as well
as any other necessary local or state permits such as a subdivision permit,
building permit, Act 250 permit, etc.
8. A letter from the power
company stating that the utilities can be installed in accordance with the
approved plans shall be submitted.
9. "Substantial
Construction" for this subdivision shall consist of the construction of
the driveway leading to lot #2, to the
standards required in the plat. In
accordance with Section 8.9 of the subdivision regulations, if substantial
construction has not begun within 3 years from the date of this approval, final
plat approval shall expire.
10. The plat should include
proposed limits on clearing if the
probable location of the house site is mapped as moderate to high visibility
from public roads or neighbors.
11. There is a right of way
which George Bedard says in incorrectly located on the tax map. This should be
clearly resolved because if it is on the O’Neil lot then the proposed 3 acre
lot will have to be adjusted to take this into account.
12. Well logs for surrounding
homes shall be submitted. If they are marginal then a well must be drilled with
a yield of at least ˝ gallon per minute and sufficient storage to meet the needs
of the number of bedrooms permitted, before a building permit can be obtained,
or an other means of guaranteeing water supply shall be proposed. The proposed well location and wellhead
protection area shall be shown on the plat.
13. The applicant shall meet
all the final plat application submission requirements for minor subdivisions
listed in Section 4.2 of the Subdivision Regulations. The final plat shall be
filed at least 20 days before the Planning Commission meeting at which it is to
be considered
14. This subdivision shall
share proportionately in the road improvements that may be required on upper
portion of the Buck Hill Road West Road as part of the adjacent subdivision.
This motion was seconded by Greg Waples
Greg Waples then made the motion to amend this motion by striking
conditional #14 in regard to sharing in the cost of road improvements. This motion was seconded by Carrie Fenn and
was voted on and did not pass with Ted, Clint and Tom voting against and Carrie
and Greg voting in favor.
The original motion was then voted on and passed unanimously.
4. BARONE/GIROUX - PRELIMINARY Russell Barone was next on the agenda to
request preliminary plat approval for a 7-lot subdivision of property currently
owned by Ernest and Teresa Giroux on the east side of the Mechanicsville Road. This project consists of 6-lot single family
residences with a remaining large lot.
The applicants have already received water and sewer allocation from the
Select Board for this project.
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Russ first went through the following changes that have been made the
project since they received sketch plan approval:
– The discrepancy in the boundary next to Bill Leggett’s lot.
– The lot sizes are all at least 1/3 acres in size.
– The plan shows the two common lands required for Planned Residential
Development (PRD).
– A line is now on the plan denoting the Village District and RRI with
the allowed 50 feet on each side.
– The wetlands on this land were also on the new plans.
– The landscaping on the plans was then explained with cedars along the
boundary line to the south/west to ensure that headlights don’t shine into that
house. The street trees on the
Mechanicsville Road will be two clusters of pines.
– He has provided a 20 foot wide easements for a sidewalk on the
Mechanicsville Road and a 10 foot wide easements in front of the houses on the
new road in this development.
– The driveway to lot #2 has been moved south due to the location of a
wetland. He then explained the
reasoning for not having all these lots accessed by the new private road.
– He also presented a digital photo of the front of the property and
elevations of the proposed houses from the Mechanicsville Road.
The next portion of Barone’s presentation was to address several of the
conditions of that sketch plan approval:
a. A context map showing the
entire property with the second phase which would be elderly housing units and
the possibility of accessing the Lavigne Hill Road through this property. He had discussed this with the Select Board
but no action was taken. This would
have quite a steep grade with some wetlands.
c. He again explained the
reason for having the access for lot #2 be off the Mechanicsville Road.
d. David Burke, the engineer for this project provided information on
how run-off down this hill will be handled in road-side ditches. The first phase will not have to receive
State Act 250 approval. There will then
be a catch-basin at the Town road directing run-off toward the ditch and into
Patrick Brook. The new road will be
paved but at this time the driveways to the new houses will not. There will be a homeowners association to
maintain, repair, snowplow, etc this new road.
The developer had requested that the Select Board take over this road in
the Village District but at this time they have decided not to do so.
e. Russ explained that it would
be hard for the houses on the new street to share driveways as the garages are
on the upside of the houses due to the slope.
f. He has met with Rocky Martin
on the drainage and run-off issues.
g. In regard to building
envelopes, Russ felt this would be up to the DRB members. Lot #5 should probably be made smaller due
to the steep bank at the rear of the lot. They plan to blast the ledge on this
lot and use this on the new road. Ted
suggested a second envelope on each lot to designate where outbuildings could
be located.
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h. There was then a discussion
with Peter Erb about the height of these homes and their appearance from the
main road. Peter felt that with
below-grade entrances, they would appear very tall on the side toward the
Mechanicsville Road. Russ explained that
there would be siding to the down and not a high visible cement wall. Clint Emmons said that these houses would be
visible from Hawk Lane, the housing development to the north where the houses
are basically ranch style. Larry
Winters who lives in this development, said that the trees between these
properties are quite sparse and therefore these new houses will be very
visible.
j. All utilities will be
underground.
There was then a discussion about this new private road and the
procedure that would be followed if the Town should take it over and if in the
future it should be a connecting road to the Lavigne Hill Road. There was concern that in the future these 6
homeowners would not want this to become a through road. Ted suggested that Russ contact the Select
Board about a irrevocable offer of dedication.
Russ then went over the requirements in the Subdivision Regulations for
preliminary plat review with some of the following comments as they pertain to
his proposal:
– He has provided 2 foot contours
– There will be language to preserve the trees in the common areas
– He will submit which requirements he is requesting be waived for this
project as a PRD such as lot size and set backs for garages.
Ted Bloomhardt then made the following motion:
The Hinesburg Development Review Board hereby grants preliminary plat
approval to Barone Construction Inc. for a six-lot single family residential
subdivision on a 65 acre parcel of land owned by Ernest and Theresa Giroux
located off of Mechanicsville Road. The subdivision shall be as shown on Plans
#1-6 by O’Leary-Burke and a “Property Plat 7-lot Subdivision” by George Bedard,
dated April 16, 2002. This approval is subject to the following conditions:
1.
The applicant
shall provide all the documentation required for Final Plat review as stated in
Section 5.2 of the Subdivision Regulations.
In addition, the applicant shall provide the following documents:
1.
Deed language
addressing the sharing of maintenance and snowplowing for the new development
road, management of the common land and the drainage facilities, landscaping
within the road right-of-way, and outbuilding restrictions.
2.
Legal
mechanisms for transferring the road to the Town shall be established.
3.
Road Cut Permit
from the Selectboard.
4.
Required
documentation for PRDs per Section 4.5.3 of the Zoning Bylaw.
5.
Sidewalk
easement language.
6.
Blasting plan.
2.
The Plans
and/or Plat shall be changed to include the following:
1.
Outbuilding
envelopes
2.
Shade tree
species proposed for street trees.
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3.
Utility plan
approved by the utility company with additional landscaping if needed.
4.
The applicant
is advised that a condition of final plat will address the future sidewalk
installation trigger.
5.
This motion was seconded by Greg Waples and passed unanimously.
5. It was decided to have the first meeting in
July on the 9th. The meeting
was adjourned at 11:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Holly Russell
Recording Secretary