TOWN OF
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD MINUTES
March 6, 2007
Approved March 20, 2007
DRB Members
Present: Ted Bloomhardt, Joe
Donegan, Bob Linck,
DRB Members Absent: Tom McGlenn, Lisa Godfrey, George Munson.
Also Present: Alex Weinhagen (Director of Zoning and
Planning), Peter Erb (Zoning Administrator), Karen Cornish (Recording
Secretary), Rad Romeyn, Inez French, John Kiedaisch, Gerry Livingston, Jean
Miner, Margaret Woodruff, Lee McIsaac, Isaiah Kiley, Lenore Budd, Raven Davis,
Annemie Curlin, Linda Hamilton, Jonathan Trefry, Marty Illick, Johanna White,
David Hirth, Bob Chalifoux, Carol Chalifoux, Pat Mainer, Mike Mainer, Zoe
Wainer, Jeff Wainer, Chuck Reiss, Paul Wieszoreck, Steven Palmer, Tinker
Palmer, Nancy Palmer.
The meeting began at approximately 7:35 p.m.
Ted introduced
Minutes of the February 20th, 2007
Meeting:
Some minor corrections were made. Greg MOVED to approve the February 20, 2007 meeting minutes as amended. Joe SECONDED the motion. The motion PASSED 4 – 0, with Dennis abstaining.
7-lot, 57-unit Subdivision/PRD
Final Plat –
There was a discussion regarding whether a
vote could be taken at this meeting due to lack of quorum. Alex noted the public hearing was closed on
February 6th. He determined
March 20th to be the last day a decision could be rendered. It was decided to wait until March 20th
to vote on the matter in an open board meeting, rather than poll absent
members.
21-Lot, 19-Unit Subdivision/PRD
Sketch Plan –
**continued
from the December 19th and January 16th meetings
Ted noted the applicant was withdrawing the
revised plans submitted at the January 16th meeting and would like
to continue the sketch plan review using the original plans submitted with the
application (dated by George Bedard 12/09/06).
He clarified procedures for this evening’s meeting, stating the board
would take new evidence and potentially close the public hearing. Alex added that absent members would review
any new evidence presented at this evening’s meeting. Rad asked if an up or down vote could be
taken. Ted replied no, that once a
public hearing is closed, the board usually discusses the matter in
deliberative session. Following
discussion, the board directs staff to write a draft decision; board members
then formally vote on that document. It
was agreed to follow the usual procedures.
Rad then asked Bob Linck to recuse himself from the matter, as a
conversation between the Vermont Land Trust
(VLT) and Vermont Land & Cattle Company regarding conservation
efforts had occurred since the last hearing.
Bob, who is employed by VLT, agreed and left the board at that
time. Greg then questioned whether the
board should proceed if there were not four members with continuous attendance
at the meetings where this project was discussed. Joe said other DRB members would be able to
review new information presented at this evening’s meeting even if the public
hearing was closed. Greg questioned
whether the board could transact a public hearing, stating it may be better to
have Rad come back at the next scheduled meeting. Rad encouraged the board to proceed and it
was agreed to do so. Alex confirmed that
a quorum would still exist without Bob when the matter came up for a vote
later.
Rad read excerpts contained in this section
of a 2004 study conducted by Michael Munson, entitled “SUMMARY OF FINDINGS FROM
SURVEY OF TOWNS USING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARDS”:
"As a starting point it is noted that the Development Review Board
serves the Town as a whole by carrying out the development review activities
spelled out in the Zoning Ordinance and Subdivision Regulations. Consistent with
It was Rad’s position that the DRB was obliged to approve his proposal, as its
5.8-acre density met with current 2-acre agricultural zoning regulations. He noted two other developments that had been
recently approved; the
Alex distributed additional written comments he had received. Margaret Woodruff then submitted her comments in the form of a letter. John Kiedaisch spoke on behalf of the Hinesburg Land Trust. He said his organization was prepared to talk to Rad about a possible conservation effort on the parcel. His group has a strong opinion regarding the placement of buildings on the west side of the property. They feel the area is a critical wildlife habitat and that buildings shown on the current proposal, even farm buildings, would do irreparable damage to that habitat. Isaiah Kiley wanted to confirm whether the board had received a letter dated 1/16/07, in which he and his mother requested a denial of the proposal; Greg confirmed the letter had been received. Isaiah said Table 1 within the Zoning Plan specifies a minimum lot size of two acres, which is not necessarily, in his opinion, the same as specifying a district’s allowable density. He felt that Subdivision Regulations section 5.1.5 “Compatibility of Surroundings” should be used as a guideline for determining density.
Dave Hirth,
speaking as a member of the Conservation Committee, concurred with John Kiedaisch’s comments regarding
the west side of the parcel, which contained woods at the edge of a large,
contiguous forest. He felt units should
be moved away from the woods and built in fields, which he explained have no
value for wildlife in the area.
Linda Hamilton of the Charlotte Conservation
Committee expressed disappointment with the applicant’s decision to revert to
the original proposal. She felt shifting
houses down to the lower third of the parcel addressed issues that were raised
in her organization’s December 18th letter. Jean Miner questioned a density study
presented by Rad Romeyn at the January 16th meeting. She thought the number of houses and
driveways off
Gerry Livingston of the Hinesburg
Conservation Committee felt the DRB’s charter was not limited to subdivision
and zoning regulations, but that the board was also responsible to the Town
Plan and the protection of town resources.
Isaiah Kiley described open space as a natural resource of the town that
should be protected.
Ted made a motion to close the public
hearing. He explained how the matter
would proceed once the hearing was closed.
He felt sufficient evidence had been submitted and it was best to
proceed. Alex explained that legally an
applicant has an expectation that once information is in, the 45-day
deliberative period should begin. John Kiedaisch asked if deliberative sessions were open to
the public. Alex replied the board
reserves the right to go into a closed deliberative session and does so on
occasion.
Ted MOVED to
close the public hearing and take the matter up in deliberative session. Greg SECONDED the motion. The motion PASSED 4-0, with Bob abstaining.
Public Hearing – Minor Plat
Revision – Buck Hill Road – Applicant: Chuck Reiss
**continued from the March 6th meeting
Joe recused himself from the board for this matter. Chuck Reiss indicated the proposed change of
a Right of Way (ROW) on a map. The
change expands, but does not move, the ROW area for the driveway from 15 feet
to 20 feet. Alex said it was not a
shared ROW, just a ROW for
Ted MOVED to close the public hearing on the modification. Bob SECONDED the motion. The motion PASSED 4-0, with Joe abstaining.
4-Lot Subdivision Sketch Plan –
**continued
from the March 6th meeting
Alex said that the applicant had
reviewed a draft decision for sketch plan approval and that no new information
had been submitted. Bob Chalifoux, an
abutting landowner, asked why
Greg MOVED
to close the public hearing and take the matter up in deliberative session. Bob SECONDED the motion. The motion PASSED 5-0.
Public Hearing –Building Envelope
Revision – Boutin Subdivision –
**continued
from the January 16th meeting
John Pitrowiski and Doug Bicknell of Trudell Consulting Engineers spoke on behalf of the Ghose’s. John reviewed the proposal to change the building envelope, noting the location of the original septic system as designed by a previous engineering firm. He said the previously approved site would not meet current septic standards. He said the new septic area did meet standards and had been reviewed on site by a state representative. He felt the house site was also better placed, now closer to the wood’s edge and away from of wetlands.
John said balloons had been placed on site to determine how the house might be viewed from the neighbor’s home. Assuming the new home would be built to the maximum 35-foot height, John said the home would still be below the tree line and out of the neighbor’s Camel’s Hump view. He stated the landowner’s preference of this new location over the old one. Greg expressed he would not take the landowner’s preference into consideration. John reviewed the septic issues and new design again. Ted asked if alternative systems had been explored; Doug replied the new design was already a performance-based system. Greg asked about the driveway; John indicated the path of the new driveway on the map. Joe pointed out that the leach field area, which must be 75 feet away if the house is downhill from the area, and 35 feet away if it is uphill, restrains the building location.
John said an alternative house site had been proposed that was situated closer to other neighbors (Donnolley/Hines), but they had objected. Greg felt changing a building site was a significant consideration, as neighbors relied on a pre-approved plan to make their decisions. He explained the history of the application when the land was being subdivided by the Boutins.
Steve Palmer indicated where his property was in relationship to the applicants’ lot. He said Phase 1 (a garage and apartment) of his home was built in 2004. Phase 2 will include the main home, planned to face Camel’s Hump. Greg asked whether the Ghose home would be visible from the Palmer’s home were it built within the approved building envelope. Steve said yes, slightly, but that a home in the proposed envelope would impact their view greatly. He passed out photos with the balloons in place, stating the photos were taken 90 feet away from the corner of the new house. It was noted that the balloons were floated at the corners of the two building envelopes. Ted noted the elevations of the two properties were similar (within 4 feet); Steve agreed.
The septic issues and possible
locations were discussed. John said the
system could be designed one level higher, as a pre-treatment system, but that
would be very expensive. He said the
land had been explored for potential primary and replacement systems, with
digging in many test areas. Lawrence
Palmer expressed concerns about the larger Palmer parcel, the value of views to
both the east and the west, and the potential for new adjacent homeowners to
strip the land of trees. Doug felt a
house built within the proposed envelope would not obstruct easterly
views. Ted agreed, stating it would be
seen in either place at almost the same elevation. Steve said it was a difference of a home
being in a primary view, or a view off to the side. There was a discussion about the tree line
and existing vegetation on or near the proposed site. Joe proposed a compromise, that landscaping
be mandated to obscure the view of the new home.
Joe noted the proposed change met with setback requirements, and also that there was no requirement on the part of the DRB to consider the visibility of one house to another. He suggested landscaping as a solution. Greg stated he would not vote favorably on this proposal, stating he felt there should be resistance to amending building envelopes. Ted proposed a site visit. John asked if it would be helpful to have confirmation from the state that the entire site had been explored, adding his firm looked at the entire 20 acres using a reasonable measurative exploration. Dennis asked if the project was grandfathered from new septic laws. John said he would not build a septic system on the site as originally proposed. Alex said the project was not grandfathered, that all development after July 1st would require a permit.
Ted MOVED to continue the public hearing until April 3rd. Joe SECONDED the motion. The motion PASSED 5 - 0. A site visit was scheduled for Saturday, March 31st at approximately 11:00 a.m. Steve requested the existing and proposed building envelopes be marked with balloons.
3-Lot, 34-Unit (8
existing, 26 new) PUD Final Plan – VT Route 116 & Charlotte Road – Owner:
Robert Bast & Laura Carlsmith; Applicant: Green Street, LLC
**continued
from the December 19th and January 16th meetings
Background Information from the Staff Report
The Applicant is
requesting Final Plat approval of a 3-lot, 34-unit (8 existing, 26 new)
subdivision and Planned Unit Development (PUD) in the Village Zoning
District. This application constitutes a
combined application for final plat along with related and necessary site plan
and conditional use approvals. Site plan
approvals are necessary for: 1) the existing 3-unit mixed office/apartment
building; 2) the existing 5-unit multi-family dwelling (apartment house); 3)
the proposed 5-unit multi-family dwelling (L1-L5 Condo units); 4) the proposed
commercial building (N1-N2). Conditional
use approvals are required for: 1) the use of the proposed commercial building
as “business or professional offices” the use will occupy more than 1000 square
feet (see section 3.4.4 #1, Zoning Regulations); 2) development in the flood
hazard area (below the 328’ elevation).
The project includes 2 adjacent parcels of 13.83 acres (parcel
#20-50-43.000) and 0.33 acres (parcel #20-50-44.000). The project is located west of
Rob Bast and Mac Rood gave an
overview of a map and project to-date.
Five parking spaces have been added as supplemental parking for the
apartment building units’ five 1-car garages.
Mac said sidewalk plans have been discussed with the Select Board. A path would connect
Mac reviewed modifications to the landscape plan. Five trees have been added and the hedge around the parking area has been modified to allow for easier snow removal. The location of the three transformers has been changed, as Green Mountain Power preferred to the have main trunk line on the west side of the project rather than down the middle of the street. Greg asked about snow removal in the event of a large storm. Rob said snow removal had been discussed with Gary Clark; Mac indicated plowing areas on the plan, noting one tree (at the road curve near the commercial building) could be removed to make snow removal easier.
Mac presented elevations of the proposed commercial building. Rob explained the details of a stair tower located in the front and center of the east side. He explained the railing on the building roof was an architectural feature as well as required safety feature. Ted asked about the average height of the building. Rob described the structure as a flat roof building with a cupola; the flat roof was 34 feet in height; the rail added an additional 2 or 3 feet. Peter explained how average height was calculated for residential buildings, that the highest point was used in the calculation unless it was a decorative feature or structure. There was a discussion about how to define this building for the purpose of measuring it. Existing buildings in the village were also discussed in comparison, particularly those over 2 stories high such as the Lantmans building.
Regarding a traffic light proposed for the area, the applicants preferred that occupancy for their development be made conditional on the installation of the traffic light, rather than conducting a study beforehand.
Regarding garage setbacks, Rob said they were no longer seeking waivers, but wished to minimize doors on some units by recessing them 10 feet into the building. Although those units have not yet been designed, they would like conceptual approval for this approach. Joe felt comfortable giving a waiver for setbacks now rather than having the applicants return for those. Specific units were discussed: K, J1, J2, and I2. K faces northeast and is the only one that requiring doors to be recessed. J1 and J2 face inwards; their garages will be set 10 feet back from units. I2 faces the walkway and will become like the others. Ted suggested using language from the Barone project decision (order #8) to address architectural features on unit K. Peter said a waiver might be necessary since the setback is from the deck. Mac confirmed they were considering the deck to be the front of the unit. Joe felt the garage on unit K could be waived without delay due to the diversity of home styles within the development. Ted agreed, saying this was a private roadway. Alex said garage standards applied in other subdivisions; he read the Barone decision language.
Mac described a tower that would serve as a focal point for the development and possibly as a gazebo. At approximately 58 feet, it would be visible from the village driving south on Route 116 and on the backside of the development. A height waiver is being requested. Rob described protected areas in the wetlands to the west. He said a pedestrian trail that followed along the river and connected to key points within the development would be indicated on a larger plan.
Mac said the lighting plan, a surveyed plat and the landscape plan were still open for discussion. Landscaping around the condominium units L1-L5 was discussed. Mac said landscaping was intentionally minimal due to limited space. Ted asked about the west side of the project, stating he wished to avoid an empty look at the backs of the buildings. Rob said the barn will be relocated onto a new foundation, near a new garden space. Mac said foundations to the rear will not be exposed. Rob suggested an orchard to break up foreground and serve as a focal point. Joe asked about photovoltaics (PVs). Rob thought trees would shade the homes and limit potential for PVs. Joe did not agree that all types of trees do so and suggested species with lower mature heights. Ted felt taking trees out was not a good trade off in planning for something that may not be economically viable. Alex said current design standards include traditional street trees that provide shade. Eastern locations for trees were reviewed; Mac said trees had been placed in every possible space already, noting space was limited due to the clustering of homes.
Ted MOVED to continue the public hearing until March 20th. Greg SECONDED the motion. The motion PASSED 5 - 0.
Other Business:
Mark Ames request to extend sketch plan approval another
6 months.
Ted MOVED to extend the sketch plan approval for an
additional period of six months. Greg
SECONDED the motion. The motion PASSED 5
– 0.
4-Lot Subdivision Sketch Plan –
No action was taken.
Conditional Use Review –
Ted felt the applicants had met the camp conversion policy, and that the home had adequate road access. The order requiring DRB approval regarding additional bedrooms was discussed. Ted MOVED to accept the draft decision as written (approval). Greg SECONDED the motion. The motion PASSED 4 – 0, with Dennis abstaining.
7-lot, 57-unit Subdivision/PRD
Final Plat –
No action was taken.
Public Hearing – Minor Plat
Revision –
Language regarding the ROW change was added to the decision. Ted MOVED to accept the draft decision as written (approval). Greg SECONDED the motion. The motion PASSED 4 – 0, with Joe abstaining.
The meeting adjourned at approximately 11:00 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted:
Karen Cornish
Recording Secretary