TOWN OF HINESBURG

DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD MINUTES

 

November 20, 2007

Approved December 4, 2007

 

DRB Members Present:  Tom McGlenn, Ted Bloomhardt, Dick Jordan, George Munson, Dennis Place, Zoë Wainer.

 

DRB Members Absent:  Greg Waples, Lisa Godfrey.

 

Also Present:  Alex Weinhagen (Director of Zoning and Planning), Peter Erb (Zoning Administrator), Karen Cornish (Recording Secretary), Betty Wright, William Bress, Kate Wanner, Bob Linck, Peter Gibbs, Peg Montgomery, Judy Fritz.

 

The meeting began at approximately 7:35 p.m.

 

Minutes of the November 6, 2007 Meeting:

Tom MOVED to approve the meeting minutes as amended.  Zoë SECONDED the motion.  The motion PASSED 5–0, with George abstaining.

 

Appeal of Decision by the Zoning Administrator – East Shore Lane – Appellants: Betty Wright and Alan Pratt

Betty Wright is appealing a decision issued by the ZA regarding the number of lots that constitute a parcel she owns in common with Pamela and Alan Pratt.  The lot is .08 acres, located at the end of East Shore Lane (off Richmond Road) on Lake Iroquois.

 

George Bedard spoke on behalf of the appellant.  He displayed a map of the parcel and presented a history of its ownership through various sales and transfers. He said the parcel has a single owner but it contains two developed lots and one vacant lot behind them.  He said a 1955 deed gave the parcel from Gilmore Dickey to Joan Hughes and Betty Wright, as tenants in common.  In 1992 a quit claim deed was executed, giving Betty full ownership of one structure, Joan the other structure, but still with common ownership of all land including the vacant lot.  George said each lot is a separate camp lot with individual owners and dimensioned descriptions; the vacant lot is and will remain in joint ownership.  George said the houses are treated separately for tax purposes but the land is treated as one.

 

Alex said he supported the ZA decision based on how the Zoning Regulations defines a “lot” (pg. 73).  He thinks the deeds refer to how lots came to be, but do not officially divide them.  Dennis asked about road easements; George said there is a road association formed to deal with the road, with an easement in place by use.

 

George spoke about zoning related to mergers; Alex confirmed that mergers happen with two properties that are under the same ownership if they are too small to be developed on their own.  Zoë asked if the parcel could be subdivided.  Alex said the entire parcel is a non-conforming lot and it could not be subdivided.  Betty Wright said the vacant lot has been merged into the lakefront lots for tax purposes.  Alex noted there is no defined ROW for access; George said the road association agreement is of record.  Alex said if one of the camps has a septic problem they now have the opportunity to find a replacement location anywhere, but would not have that right if the lots were divided.

 

Tom suggested getting legal counsel.  George requested that the town get legal counsel before moving further on the appeal.  Tom said legal costs may be incurred by the appellant.  Alex clarified the DRB has the option of paying fees or compelling the appellant to pay those fees.  Ted said he thought the parcel has been treated as one parcel since 1955 and that the ZA decision should be upheld.

 

Tom MOVED to continue the public hearing to December 4th meeting and direct staff to consult an experienced real estate lawyer to review the case; he further moved that the appellant pay for that review.  Ted SECONDED the motion.  The motion PASSED 6-0.

 

3-Lot Subdivision Final Plat Approval – Gilman Road – Applicant: Kate Wanner, Trust for Public Land

Kate Wanner reviewed changes to the application since it was last reviewed by the Board.  She said none of the three lots will be developed at this time.  She said farmland will be sold to the same party that will be buying parcel 4 (of the larger project) but they won’t be building a house for a few years, most likely on parcel 4.  She said the conservation easement on parcel 2A gives the right for four future houses.  She said the future buyer and Wayne Bissonette have mediated re the erosion issue on parcel 2B by working with NRCS to fix and monitor it.  Peter said he would re-word the finding to say work has been done.  Dennis asked why the cemetery was not being transferred now.  Kate said it was due to timing issues, explaining if they had done a major subdivision it would have taken longer since the cemetery would have been a non-conforming lot.   Ted said decision language should be clear that no development is proposed or approved; he recommended changing Order #4 to state that no building lots are being approved.

 

Zoë MOVED to close the public hearing and approve the draft decision as amended.  Dennis SECONDED the motion.  The motion PASSED 6-0.

 

2-lot Subdivision – Sketch Plan Review – Texas Hill Road – Applicant/Landowner: Judy Fritz

Tom noted board members George, Dick and Zoë have not visited the property.  Judy said following the previous application, she walked the property with a site engineer to review septic possibilities.  She said they focused on an edge of the parcel, dug a test pit and ran into sandy soil (concluding it was acceptable for septic).  She said it still left the majority of a flat spot for a house and driveway.  She said she would like to keep the driveway away from the stream and also to come in at a higher elevation.  She said she has not yet tested for water, but has a reliable well at her house that has never run out of water.  Tom said in a worst case scenario, the well could be utilized as a shared well by adding storage.  Zoë asked if Judy had spoken with the town highway department.  Judy said no but said Mike Anthony had stated in the previous application that sight distance was the only issue.  The group discussed speed limit and sight distance.  Judy provided the group with a map marked with topographical lines.

 

Charles Bush, a nearby resident, said he went on the previous site visit.  He said he has concerns about water and septic, that stormwater will run off the ledge into the brook.  He expressed concerns about the wildlife corridor in the area, and also about density in the area.  Bob Linck, a nearby resident, thought it was contrary to the town plan to give landowners of 10+ acre lots the right to subdivide and that it would set a precedent.  He noted wildlife crossings in the area.  George Bedard said Judy will have to get a state water permit with all basic protections built into that permit.  He noted Bob Linck worked for the Vermont Land Trust and has an interest in conservation.  Ted thought the application should be treated as a 3-step major subdivision.  Peter thought there may be a significant difference with the curb cut (from this application to the previous one); he suggested that Mike Anthony review the proposal for sight distance.  Judy said there is a lot of flexibility between where the previous road cut was and the ledge, noting the parcel had a lot of road frontage.  Ted asked if it was because of where the ledge started.  Judy asked about the process of finding the best location before Mike came to review it.

 

Dennis asked about well yields in the area (as cited in the Bedard application), whether that information could be used in this matter.  Peter thought water was less an issue in this application.  Ted thought that, density aside, a 2-lot subdivision seemed doable given the amount of road frontage.  

 

Ted MOVED to close the public hearing and direct staff to draft conditions of approval.  Dennis SECONDED the motion.  The motion PASSED 6-0.  Ted MOVED to treat the application as a 3-step major subdivision.  Dennis SECONDED the motion.  The motion PASSED 6-0.

 

9-Lot, 8-Unit Subdivision/PRD – Preliminary Plat Review – Route 116 – Applicant: David Carse/Hart Hill Design, LLC

Peter Gibbs of Engineering Ventures spoke about the project, now named “Cottage Hill”.  He said the parcel would have eight ½-acre building lots situated in the northeast corner, with remaining acreage on a ninth lot designated as common land.  A portion of lot #9 would be used for the main access road, the septic area and a travel road (ROW) that provided access to common land (for the homeowners) and access to the barn (for the neighboring Ballard family).  Approximately ¾ of the parcel would be open space, with 6 acres of common land developed with community gardens and the travel road.  David Carse explained that lot #9 is 36.5 acres but not all of it is designated as “open space”.  Alex clarified that PRDs may show a boundary line on the final plat dividing developed land and undeveloped land, and also defining usage for those areas.  David said the full 36.5 acres will be owned in common.  He asked about the potential to lease back land for agricultural use.  Peter Erb said the lot description as currently written defines only open space and usage, not what area(s) could be leased out.

 

Peter G. then presented three proposed subdivision plans, with varying setback dimensions and lot sizes:

Plan #1 - Front = 60 ft.; Rear = 30 ft.; Side = 20 ft.; .5 acre lots

Plan #2 - Front = 30 ft.; Rear = 30 ft.; Side = 10 ft.; .5 acre lots

Plan #3 - Front = 30 ft.; Rear = 30 ft.; Side = 10 ft.; .6 acre lots

 

Peter G. reviewed Plan #1, stating lots were laid out to meet the order language from the sketch plan decision regarding visibility from 116.  Lots were evenly divided with somewhat uniform building envelopes.  He then reviewed Plan #2, with setback waivers in place.  Lots were more staggered, with larger building envelopes.  David said they found house sites to be too restrictive in Plan #1, and developed Plan #2 to allow more flexibility to stagger the houses.  Dick asked if front yard setbacks could be a bit more (like 40 feet) to avoid building right on the access road.  Ted agreed, stating the plan should make sense as to where a house would realistically be built.  Peter Erb thought the location of the house on Lot 7 determined how the whole subdivision will be viewed from Route 116.

 

Peter G. reviewed Plan #3; David said the slightly larger lot size gave flexibility, and would make a difference in building and selling houses.  He noted three houses would have western views. Peter G. showed 3 photo diagrams: one with no houses; one based on Plan #2; and one based on Plan #3 with houses more spread out.  David said the houses would not be bigger in Plan #3, but better quality.  That plan would also add access to a community garden area as a ROW.

 

Tom asked about topography and slopes.  David said the house farthest from Route 116 is lower; he described the land and where it drops off from 116 (in the middle of the proposed development).  Peter G. said they did septic tests with uniform results.  He is proposing a shared mound system that will be hidden behind the development but tucked close to the development.  Dennis asked about mowing; David said the mound could be mowed with light equipment, it could be grazed and noted the farm road runs between the development and the mound.  Dick asked about the development’s main road being used for farm access.  David would like to include access for the Ballard family on the main road for vehicles and equipment.  He spoke to his vision of the development as being part of a working farm.  Ted agreed with the Plan #3 configuration of .6 acre lots.  Zoë asked if there was any issue with the Lot 3 configuration as a long strip; Alex said no.  Peter G. said he will be in touch with Al Barber about emergency vehicle access. 

 

George asked about erosion control.  Peter G. described temporary erosion control measures during construction.  He said they wished to create drainage easements.  David pointed out a natural swale on the west side of Lot 1.  Peter G. noted an easement within the association language and said the lot configuration can be changed to accommodate the swale location.  He added he would probably change the drainage plan for the Plan #3 configuration, to change the swale and also include a detention area.

 

The group discussed the Adirondack view corridor and access to the Geprags property by homeowners.  David said the Conservation Commission should make recommendations as to a pedestrian or non-motorized vehicle path configuration.  Alex said that could be worked out with the Trails Committee before final plat review.  George said he would like to see the driveway configurations; he suggested combining the driveways of Lots 2, 3 and 4.  Peter Erb requested that the applicant place flagging to mark the back of the building envelopes.  Ted said he would like to see flagging placed more realistic to where housing would be built. 

There was a discussion over which cluster was more aesthetically pleasing.

 

Ted MOVED to continue the public hearing to December 18th.  Dennis SECONDED the motion.  The motion PASSED 6-0. 

 

Other Business

George Munson left the meeting at this time (9:55 pm).

 

Charney Plat Revision

Ted MOVED to approve the decision as written (approval).  Zoë SECONDED.  The motion passed 7-0, with Greg and Lisa voting yes in advance and George abstaining.

O’Brien Subdivision
Alex said Lisa had relayed her concern regarding the location of septic systems.  The group discussed whether the system should be re-located or re-designed before the plan was approved.  Alex noted state septic rules had changed since the proposal’s septic plans were designed.  Dennis MOVED to approve the decision as written (approval).  Tom SECONDED.  The motion passed 6-1, with Lisa voting no in advance, Greg voting yes in advance, and George abstaining.

 

Zoë MOVED to go into deliberative session.  Ted SECONDED the motion.  The motion PASSED 5-0.

 

Laberge Appeal of a Notice of Violation

No action was taken at this time.

 

The next DRB meeting is December 4th.  The meeting adjourned at 10:35 p.m.

 

Respectfully Submitted:  

 

Karen Cornish

Recording Secretary